Q&A for Today: 2010 November 24

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The Ever-Present Comparison of Vedic Astrology with Western Astrology

Almost all of todays questions and answers focus on this topic! For some reason it is “trending” or something =)

Sidereal or Western???

Some rich guy wants to buy a guitar, right? He’s going to buy a Paul Reed Smith – the most expensive guitar in the shop. Cuz he knows that guitar is the “best” they make. You know what though? That guy sucks at playing guitar, hahaha. Sorry to say. Anyway… the guy might as well by a cheap bc rich or some other chinese knockoff guitar. Because, frankly, since the dude can’t play guitar, it doesn’t matter if his guitar is the best or the worst, whatever he plays is going to sound horrible.

Its the same thing with astrology!

Maybe sidereal systems are better than western systems? Maybe visa versa? But the real issue is that 98% of the people asking and aswering these questions, well… “suck” at “playing” an astrological birth chart, etc. People don’t know much at all about astrology, thinking that it is all about “12 signs” – so really, what difference does it make if they use a “better” system or a “worse” system? Regardless of what system they use, their results are going to be little more than blind chance or some flowery vaguery.

You know what I mean? I hope this makes sense without being overly offensive. Sorry if this offends anyone, but I think it needs to be said. I think the most important thing is to first of all get deep into understanding actual astrological techniques. That is much more important than deciding if Sidereal or Western is “better”.

Signs are signs… they are not really astrology. They are just signs taken out of context. I might use a tropical sign or a sidereal sign – but if thats all I’m considering (just signs) I still haven’t really scratched the surface of what either astrological system (tropical or sidereal) is about, at all.

The thing about sidereal is that it has not changed for thousands of years. Therefore very ancient, fundamental, and well-developed and researched systems of interpretation STILL work very reliably on charts cast in the sidereal zodiac system. If you learn those systems and definitions and apply them to sidereal charts you can be extremely consistent and deliver good readings on a frequency that is much better than pure chance.

Probably you could do the same thing too in Western Astrology, with the tropical zodiac – provided you learn the appropriate western interpretation systems and apply them systematically.

The reason I personally prefer the sidereal and ancient practices is because I have more trust in things that stand the test of time.

Sidereal or Vedic???

If you are asking Sidereal Modern vs. Sidereal Vedic? Interesting question!

I prefer ancient sidereal methods (aka. “vedic”) because the thing I like about the sidereal zodiac is that it doesn’t change. It is the same always. So thousands of years of theory and practice can develop around it – which is why I like to leverage the ancient techniques that stand the test of time.

If you are asking Sidereal/Vedic vs. something else (western/tropical)…

98% of people “into astrology” don’t know what astrology is about. They think it revolves around “signs.” For these people, regardless if they use sidereal system or tropical system – they are still just running on luck, instinct, etc. If I suck at playing guitar, it doesn’t matter if I have a good guitar or a bad one – you know what I mean? So for most people asking and answering this question, the point is moot.

One more interesting point that never gets airtime…

“Vedic” astrology (Jyotish) is BOTH sidereal AND tropical. We use the tropical zodiac for several very important calculations – particularly when determining planetary strength.

Does your sidereal sign describe you better than your tropical sign?

Signs are signs… they are not really astrology. They are just signs taken out of context. I might use a tropical sign or a sidereal sign – but if thats all I’m considering (just signs) I still haven’t really scratched the surface of what either astrological system (tropical or sidereal) is about, at all.

The thing about sidereal is that it has not changed for thousands of years. Therefore very ancient, fundamental, and well-developed and researched systems of interpretation STILL work very reliably on charts cast in the sidereal zodiac system. For example, interpretation of house lordships – an extremely fundamental principle of astrology – works surprisingly well in sidereal charts (provided you know the ancient definitions of the houses and so forth).

If push comes to shove, I would say, “YEP” especially for the rising sign, the sidereal sign and its ancient/sidereal definition will be more accurate. But I will qualify it by saying that “more accurate” still isnt “very accurate” because we would still just be dealing with a sign or a few signs and ignoring the dozens of other equally and more important astrological principles of how to make sense out of the planets and stars.

Is the rising sign the most important sign in Vedic astrology?

As long as you keep holding on to the idea that astrology is about “signs” you are going to be hit or miss regardless of what system of signs you use.

The rising sign is the most important sign in any real system of astrology – not because that “sign” is supposed to make a blanket description of you that “matches really well”, but because that sign is the anchor point of the rest of the chart, around which the rest of the houses arrange themselves – and therefore the basis on which interpretation of the chart can proceed.

Are 6/8 quincunx signs compatible?

No, the 6/8 pattern (“quincunx”) indicates incompatibility with about 75% intensity.

Other alignments may make you very compatible with a person with whom you happen to have a 6/8 pattern, but nonetheless, the 6/8 pattern is NOT one of the alignments contributing to that compatibility. For example, my wife of 13 years is 6/8 with my rising sign – due a lot to the rest of the positive factors aligning in our two charts. The 6/8 thing brings some challenges to our relationship – but the rest of the positive things make us able to overcome those challenges, and even enjoy them somewhat and build on them.

– Vic DiCara (Vraja Kishor das)

www.vicdicara.com