The Effect of Being Very Close to the Border of a Sign

There is a theory that planets lose all their potency and get “weird” when they are really, really close to the border of a sign.

This is a valid theory and Patsy Cline’s horoscope is a good example of it, but the theory has to be balanced against other theories. Particularly, the theory of impact via alignment. Specifically, if the key points of a horoscope (ascendant, Sun and Moon) are very, very close to the sign borders, the planet would actually gain impact by being very, very close to a sign border — because it would then come into influential alignment with those key points. However, without that alignment, the theory of sign borders being like sinkholes that sap the planets energy is a good, workable theory.

Patsy Cline is an example of having two very important planets exactly on the border of a sign, when neither the Ascendant, nor Moon, nor Sun is near the border of a sign… so she is a prime example of planets getting weird and “sucked away” as a result of being on zodiac borders.

[Patsy Cline
born on 8 September 1932 at 23:05 (= 11:05 PM )
Place Winchester, Virginia, 39n11, 78w10]

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– Vic DiCara

Order in the Zodiac?


I was wondering if you had any insight into the order of the signs. For example, why does the moon’s sign cancer have the water element? Or why is the first sign ruled by Mars, and not the sun?


I’ve written about this here and there, and it must be somewhere in my blog – but it doesn’t hurt to write a little bit about it again. This is the sort of thing that will probably get a full explanation in my next book, the follow up to Great Big Crystal Ball in the Sky.

Order of the Signs and Rulers

The main article I’ve written to address your main question is here: The Ancient Myth Behind the Zodiac.

Order of the Sign Elements

About the elements (and, “why is cancer a water sign”) – My opinion is that the elements are first of all rooted to the cardinal directions, and the directions relate to the signs.

Fire is rooted to the east. The element and the direction both relate to gaining clarity on the proper path to follow (dharma), because the sun rises in the east and sheds light.

Air is rooted to the west. The element and direction both relate to recreation and pleasure (kāma), because when the sun sets we relax and enjoy our private lives.

Earth is rooted to the south. The element and direction relate to stability and prosperity (artha). It’s clear why earth is related to stability. The “south” is not as clear unless we realize that it is relative to the northern hemisphere, and celestial “south” is directly underground. (An argument can be made that celestial “south” is directly underground regardless of your hemisphere, but it’s too complicated and I don’t feel like getting into it right now.)

Water is rooted to the north. Celestial north is up in the sky. The direction and element relate to reflection, and the resulting self-realization.

Now, if you ask why the directions relate to the signs… It’s also a little too complex to really answer threadbare right now, but the short answer is that the signs are primarily related to the Sun. The Sun’s position relative to the equator correlates celestial south to Capricorn, celestial north to Cancer, celestial east and west to Aries and Libra respectively.

Therefore Capricorn is earth, Cancer water, Aries fire, and Libra air.

As for the other 8 signs, these just echo what is established by the four cardinal signs, described above. It’s too much to explain it threadbare, but you just make a pattern of the same east, south, west, north sequence and map it to the signs. Thus, having established that Aries is east, and therefore fire. The next sign echoes the next direction in the sequence. Therefore taurus echoes the south and is earth. Gemini echoes the west, and is Air. Then we come to cancer, and just repeat.

These things would be much easier to explain with visual aids.

Order of the Sign Modes

This is easier to explain. It directly corresponds to the Sun’s motion while it is in a given sign. In any cardinal sign, the Sun begins moving in a new direction. In any fixed sign it remains committed to that course. In any dual sign it finishes up the old direction and slows down to start the next new direction.

For example, in Aries (cardinal) the Sun rises over the equator and heads northward. In Taurus (fixed) it just keeps going north. In Gemini (dual) it finishes up the northern course and gets ready to head “west” (towards the celestial “sunset”). In Cancer (cardinal) it passes the northern apex and heads west. In Leo (fixed) it keeps going west. In Virgo (dual) it finishes the western course and gets ready for the southern course. In Libra (cardinal) it sets below the equator and heads south. Etc. etc.

—  Vic DiCara

Custom Astrology Software

Just letting the first word out… I’m going to start working at the first opportunity on my own custom Astrology software. I’ve developed too many specific maths and systems, I need to collect them all into a really good package with a solid calculation engine, and really clear user interface. Will keep you update of course! It is only at the most initial beginning stages right now!

Alternate Charts

Question – about the moon’s chart. When you are looking at the chart from the point of view of the moon, are you using that information to add to your understanding of the moon – the person’s mind?
Yeah, but don’t divorce it dualistically from physical reality. Physical reality is only a projection from the emotional reality. Physical reality is subordinate to and founded on the emotional/mental realities. So, the Moon’s chart is quite important, more important than any amśa chart.
Parāśara reccomends that if you want really clear vision of a chart (sudarśan), you should look at the main chart, the moon chart, and the sun chart as a unit. In other words you should weigh the indicators of all three charts before developing firm, concrete interpretations. I would clarify that the main chart is the first, moon second, and sun third in order of importance.
I think its safe to say that all these other aṁśas that people talk about, navāmśa and so on, are less important than the Moon and Sun’s chart.
– Vic DiCara

How to Read a Birth Chart, the Most Important Thing is Figuring out Where to Begin.

Interpretations of planets, signs and houses is important, of course – but it’s not as important as learning how to prioritize all of that stuff and organize it into one cohesive picture.

When you look at a birth chart, you will be bombarded by 90 thousand ideas, possibilities, etc. If you can’t sort out which ones are more and less important, you will start at the wrong spot, pointed in the wrong direction, and wind up way out in left field.

So the first task for reading any birth chart is to calculate the impact of each individual planet (to do this, you need to learn the “ṣaḍ-bāla” calculations, and how to apply them). With the impact of each planet calculated, you know where to begin, you can find the doorway and the path it grants through that myriad of 90 thousand symbols and ideas.

That entry point is simply the planet(s) with the most impact. It must become the backbone, the central pillar, the main outline of your entire interpretation of the whole chart. Use the most impactful planets as the central focus of the entire reading, and the less impactful planets (especially if they are much less impactful) can be almost ignored if they don’t support themes indicated at least somehow by the main, most impactful planet(s).

– Vic DiCara

Lonely Moon (Kemadruma Yoga) Vividly Illustrated by Krishna’s Horoscope

I’ll preface the post by defining what a Lonely Moon (Kemadruma) Yoga is:

The more conditions met, the stronger the yoga becomes. If the first factor is not met, the yoga cannot form at all, even if the rest of the factors are perfectly met. Do not count the Sun or the Nodes (Rahu and Ketu) as “planets” when evaluating this yoga.

  1. There is no planet in the 2nd or 12th position from the Moon
  2. There is no planet in an angle to the Moon (i.e. the 1st, 4th, 7th or10th position)
  3. There is no planet in an angle to the ascendant
  4. The Moon is not in an angle to the ascendant

The effect of the yoga is detachment, undervaluing of the world, and therefore losing ones position.

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No planet in 2 or 12 from Moon, so there is Kemadruma (“lonely moon”).
There is no “planet” in the Moon’s angles or the Ascendants angles, the only planets are Sun, Rahu and Ketu, which don’t count for lessening the Kemadruma. So the intensity just rocketed up two levels.
The Moon is in an angle, which doesn’t increase the intensity, but if you ask me, in this case it does, because the Moon is really in the 1st house, on the ascendant, which means this yoga has to have obvious effect right from birth.
So Krishna’s chart is an example of a very, very severe Kemadruma yoga. And the actual outcome is that although he was born into royalty, he had to immediately be smuggled out of the political arrest his parents were under and lived in hiding for 11 years in a farm-villiage, where he was regularly attacked by assassins sent looking for him.
Now, Krishna’s like is ANYTHING but a tale of woe. Nonetheless we do see adverse circumstances like this forming the backdrop against which his blissful life unfolded.
Perhaps it is the Moon being in an angle which prevents the Kemadruma from being ABSOLUTELY lethal, but more that that I think it is the extremely strong positivity and impact of his Moon. Its exalted, and we don’t know the exact degree, but its easy to know based on yogas required for a Viṣṇu incarnation that it must have been in very, very good amśas (subdivisions).
Also the degrees of Venus and Saturn aren’t precicely known, but especially if they are towards the end of Libra, they would be giving significant aspect to the Moon and Ascendant, which seems quite likely since they are in Raja-Yoga in exaltation and own-sign in the 6th house, indicating that by power and grace Krishna would overcome all enemies and obsticles. So this counterbalances the effect.
So the upshot is that while in the farm-villiage he lived a wondrously beautiful and happy life, and then when he turned 12 (at which time he was physically matured to the equivalent of a 16 year old), he left hiding, returned to the city, directly destroyed the enemy who had caused the whole problem, restored his grandfather to the throne and returned to his royal situation.
A really vivid illustration of an extremely powerful Kemadruma yoga offset by a moon that has extremely good dignity (positivity) and impact, and a significant aspect from raja-yoga in the 6th house formed by planets with very, very high dignity.
– Vic DiCara

Why Does the Moon Indicate Finances?

The Moon is the mind.

The mind evaluates things as either “positive” or “negative.”

This causes the mind to have desires for the positive stuff and against the negative stuff.

These desires cause emotions, which boil down to: happiness when we acquire the positive stuff and avoid the negative stuff, and unhappiness when we can’t.

It’s the “desires” part of the mind that makes the Moon a vaiṣya planet – a planet indicating finances. Desires inspire us to earn money (etc) so we can attain the stuff we want and get rid of the problems we don’t want. In other words, earning money is a means to fulfill desire, and therefore the moon is crucially involved in how well one earns money.

(The other vaiṣya planet is Mercury, because it governs our ability to exchange, which includes trade and commerce.)